Since the 70s, Roberta Friedman and Grahame Weinbrens's films have been investigating the syntax of cinema and avant-garde narratives, before they started realizing multimedia and interactive projects which commented on their own previous works. Weinbren is our guest from New York and will be discussing the transformations of the cinematographic with Dorothee Wennter. "Future Perfect" was produced in 1978 via algorhythmic hand coloring and filming the wall, while POST FUTURE PAST PERFECT (2004) is a digital comment on the 16-mm material. With MURRAY AND MAX TALK ABOUT MONEY (1979), they asked whether films could be made for cinema that are not pornographic in one way or another. The opus STRAIGHT FROM BERTHA is a portrait of an American family filmed over three generations in 1976, 2009 and 2015. (stss) (10.5.)